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There are lots of misconceptions about what it is like to be a woman in the fields of science, math or engineering. Below we have compiled a list of frequently asked questions that many of our past speakers at Pathways have been repeatedly asked. If there is something you are curious about, but don't see listed below, why not e-mail us and submit your query. Chances are someone else wondered the very same thing!

How did you choose your career ?

What did you study to prepare ?
 
What do you actually do at work on a typical day ?
 
How much does someone in your field earn ?
 
Have you ever felt discriminated against (e.g. due to gender, race, ethnicity...)
and how did you respond ?
 
Do you have a life outside your work ? a family ? hobbies ?
 
What advice would you give someone wanting to enter your field ?


Rather haphazardly! I got into computer science because it was one of few majors that I *knew* I could handle. I ended up in graduate school because I was in a bad work situation and because I ran into a former student of mine and remembered how much I liked teaching. I ended up as a professor because after finally finishing graduate school, I wanted to shoot for the one job for which the Ph.D. was a necessity.

-- Margo Seltzer, Prof. of Computer Science, Harvard University

Choosing field: based on what subjects interested me in school; choosing to get a Ph.D.: because of encouragement from professors; choosing to be a professor: While I was working in industry, I saw that my husband was enjoying his job teaching more than I enjoyed my job so I decided to switch.

-- Mari Ostendorf, Associate Professor
BU College of Engineering

Growing up in an urban environment on weekdays and a rural environment on weekends (my parents had 2 homes) made me appreciate the diversity and opportunities of a city and the beauty of the country. I always wanted to bring a little country to the city; therefore, preserving the small amount of urban open space (i.e., keeping parks clean) became a secret mission of mine as a child. I was also moved by a TV litter campaign showing a Native American crying at the sight of pollution along the oceanfront. In 8th grade, my science teacher played a development game with our class that identified the negative side effects of development including a growing landfill/solid waste disposal problem, air pollution, water pollution, decrease in open space, etc. Preserving the beauty in our environment became a passion. When I began senior year of high school, a family friend mentioned engineering to me since I was good at math and science. I attended some engineering career days to find out more about engineering. I applied to technical colleges. When I got to college, I told a professor about my passion and he told me, "You should be a civil engineer with a concentration in water resources!" And that was that.

-- Rita Fordiani, P.E., Environmental Engineer, CH2M HILL (consulting)

When I was in high school, I enjoyed science and math classes a lot and began to think about a career in science. I did some volunteer work in science labs during the summer and also attended summer science programs for high-school students in Astronomy and Oceanography. These experiences made me realize that I preferred science fields that involved a lot of math, like chemistry or physics.

During college, I continued to work in labs during the summer. I also took a summer position that involved teaching high-school students and I worked as a tutor during the year. I discovered that I enjoyed teaching quite a bit, so I decided to aim for a career that would include both education and research. As a result, I continued my studies at the graduate level, ultimately obtaining a doctoral degree. After completing a postdoctoral research fellowship, I joined the faculty at Boston University and have been there ever since.

-- Elizabeth Simmons, Assistant Professor of Physics, Boston University


 

As an undergraduate I studied Applied Mathematics, with a focus on computer science. I then worked in industry for nearly five years as a software and hardware developer, mostly at small, young companies where I got to do a variety of things. Finally, I went to the of California, Berkeley for a Ph.D. in computer science.

-- Margo Seltzer, Prof. of Computer Science, Harvard University

As much math as was available and physics.

--- Mari Ostendorf, Associate Professor
BU College of Engineering

Most technical undergraduate college curriculums are pretty well structured with little room for "other" classes; therefore, my course work included calculus, physics, organic chemistry, aquatic biology, ecology, limnology, fluid dynamics, but I also took as many labs as possible since I am a very "hands-on" learner. My humanities concentration was in creative writing which was a welcome diversion from technology and also provided me with the writing skills I use today to translate technical concepts into something understandable by the general public.

-- Rita Fordiani, P.E., Environmental Engineer, CH2M HILL (consulting)


I spent an enormous fraction of my day answering e-mail. Another large fraction is dedicated to preparing slides for talks, notes for lecture, or other presentation materials. I also meet with students regularly, typically to discuss research projects. Finally, (when I'm lucky) I get to spend some time actually writing software, analyzing data, and writing up results. During the semester, I also spend some fraction of my time up in front of a class teaching. One of the nice things about the job is that no two days are the same, and there are so many things to do, it's virtually impossible to get bored doing anything.

-- Margo Seltzer, Prof. of Computer Science, Harvard University

Varies tremendously from day to day, but may include:

  • lecturing and preparing class material
  • meeting with students in my classes during office hours
  • meeting with my graduate and undergraduate students about their research problems
  • writing proposals to obtain research funding
  • writing papers and reports
  • preparing talks and attending conferences
  • reading technical papers
  • thinking up new algorithms

    -- Mari Ostendorf, Associate Professor
    BU College of Engineering

I juggle several types of balls -- I have several clients. With some clients, I make sure they receive whatever services they need and that they're happy with the services they receive. With other clients, I am the project manager responsible for delivery of a technical project within budget and schedule. Typically my projects involve field work, numerous meetings with the client and state and federal regulatory agencies, and lots of report writing. My current projects include:

  • a 2-year combined sewer overflow abatement master plan development (combined sewers include sanitary wastewater and storm water which often overflow to surface waters during rainstorms) for Camden and Gloucester City, NJ
  • development of a hydrologic and hydraulic computer model of an urban sewer system in Hartford, CT
  • alternatives evaluation of providing 25 million gallons of reservoir storage in the Quincy/Milton, MA area
  • review of the operation and maintenance of the sewer system for West Springfield, MA and New Haven, CT
  • I do business development (i.e., talk with people about potential upcoming business opportunities and prepare proposals and presentations about our services)
  • For my company, I am the water resources technology coordinator for the northeast region which means I need to keep up on advancements in this field (read and participate in conferences and on committees) and be a resource
  • I also mentor younger staff

My typical day includes a little of all of the above since on any day I can receive a phone call that requires that I jump into action to solve a problem or several problems (for example, sometimes the client has a question or needs some documentation, sometimes the field crews are having a problem collecting data, sometimes equipment breaks and we need to prepare a presentation in a different manner, etc.)

Basically, I need to be ready for anything; the fact that I need to be spontaneously resourceful is both challenging and exciting! For my job, and at my level, I need excellent technical, business, communication, and people skills. Many of these skills you will improve upon as you work and learn and succeed; you're not expected to be an expert just out of school - you are expected to have some skill and ambition to improve and succeed; most employers are looking for enthusiasm and energy in recent graduates.

-- Rita Fordiani, PE, Environmental Engineer, CH2M HILL (consulting)


My days vary a lot. That's part of what I like about being both a teacher and a researcher. On days when I'm not teaching, I try to spend as much time as possible on my research: doing calculations, checking the literature via the world-wide-web sites on particle physics, talking with colleagues and graduate students. Sometimes I travel to other universities to give seminars or colloquia about my work; or I may go hear a lecture by a scientist who's visiting Boston University.

The night before a day when I'll be teaching, I spend an hour or two going over my lecture notes and practicing what I'll say. The next morning, I visit the lecture demonstration room to practice the demonstrations (experiments) I'll be doing in class. Then I hold an office hour so students can come ask me questions about the material. At the end of the morning, I lecture for an hour and a half. If I've given a lecture quiz, I spend some time after class grading the quiz and recording the grades. In the afternoon, I may meet with student advisees, attend a departmental meeting, or work on writing part of a technical manuscript.

-- Elizabeth Simmons, Assistant Professor of Physics, Boston University

New College graduates from our program typically earn annual salaries between $40,000 and $70,000. Today, it is also common for students to get "signing bonuses" that range from $5000 to $15,000. Students graduating with Ph.D.s typically go either into academia or industry. Academic starting salaries are approximately between $55,000 and $60,000 for a 9 month salary, so this should be thought of as a range of $67,000 - $73,000. Students who go into industry are earning between $75,000 and $100,000.

-- Margo Seltzer, Prof. of Computer Science, Harvard University

In industry: $65k-$85k for a new Ph.D., $100k for senior person -- much less in academia.

-- Mari Ostendorf, Associate Professor
BU College of Engineering

Recent college graduates make about $30,000/year; recent master's graduates make about $40,000/year; salaries increase with the # of years of experience up to about $150,000/year.

-- Rita Fordiani, PE, Environmental Engineer, CH2M HILL (consulting)

Not really. I've had one or two fairly minor incidents with individuals, but in all cases, I felt that the organization to which I belonged was supportive. The offender was reprimanded and I never felt any negative repercussions.

- - Margo Seltzer, Prof. of Computer Science, Harvard University

In school by teaching assistants in electronics labs who did more supervision of our lab work than the guys -- just lived with it. More subtle things at work included getting fewer opportunities than I thought I should have gotten -- dealt with it by making my own opportunities and pushing hard for things I thought I needed.

-- Mari Ostendorf, Associate Professor
BU College of Engineering

I usually respond by allowing my work to speak for itself. I work hard and most supervisors appreciate that. If you work hard, then you make your supervisor look good, too. I have had very good supervisors. In 1 instance, a boss was not paying me fairly, and I found a better job elsewhere (then my old boss wanted me back badly, but it was his loss). In another instance a subordinate (a woman) who worked for many engineers (all others were male) and did not want to work for me because I was a woman; I tried to work things out with her but she refused so she was fired. In another instance, a man from another department began sexually harassing several women in the office; we joined together and brought the matter up with management and management spoke to him. The harassment stopped, and he refused to speak to any of us which made working with him difficult so we just worked through other people. He was fired within the year.

My experience has been: if you do quality work and are a reasonable person who tries to be a team player, then you will most likely be supported in times of conflict. If your work is marginal and you have difficulties getting along with people, then you will mostly likely be fired.

-- Rita Fordiani, PE, Environmental Engineer, CH2M HILL (consulting)

 

Absolutely! I play women's soccer which means 2 games/week during the summer and 1 game and 1 practice per week during the Spring and Fall. During the winter, I play indoor which is typically one day a week. In addition, I study and teach karate which takes an hour or two for two to three days a week.

Although both my husband and I are workaholics, we try to spend some time together and enjoy each other's company. When given a chance, we take somewhat exotic vacations: 2 weeks white-water rafting and camping through the Grand Canyon, or scuba diving in Australia (one of our favorites!).

- Margo Seltzer, Prof. of Computer Science, Harvard University

I work long hours, but I make up for it by taking good vacations (sailing and trekking in Thailand and Borneo, skiing in the west and in Europe, sailing in Greece, Corsica, Caribbean, etc. My family includes a husband also working full time and 8 month old daughter. In my free time I enjoy sailing, skiing, reading, playing with my daughter, cooking and wine tasting.

--- Mari Ostendorf, Associate Professor
BU College of Engineering

Absolutely; it's critical for your mental, emotional, and physical health and the health of your family and also your friends who may need you. Work can be stressful at times; consulting has peaks and valleys (mostly peaks) of intense activity which is partly what I like about it. I can juggle a lot of responsibility; but when work becomes too stressful for an extended period of time, then anyone can lose it - before this happens though you need to tell your supervisor that you need help so that the appropriate action plan can be put into place. Most of the time, it's OK to ask for help. If you do not enjoy the place where you work, then find something else that makes you happy - life is too short to be miserable.

I have a husband and 2 children (presently one 2-year old and one 5-month old)

My husband and I mountain climb. When we go on vacation, we need to go to remote places for at least 2 weeks away from all computers, phones, faxes, etc.

-- Rita Fordiani, PE, Environmental Engineer, CH2M HILL (consulting)

 

Having a part of my life that's separate from my work is very important to me. I enjoy physics very much, but doing one thing all the time would make me feel stagnant after a while.

The most important part of my life away from work is my family. I have been married for over 7 years and we have a son who is 6 years old. My husband and I are both physics professors and during the work week, we sometimes collaborate on research projects. But after work and on weekends, we focus on family activities with our son; we like to go hiking and bike riding with him and take him to local museums or to fly his kite in the park. During vacations we often take him to visit his grandparents or other relatives. My husband and I have always shared equally in the housework and childcare; I think that's crucial if both partners are going to have successful careers.

My primary hobby at the moment is reading science fiction and mystery novels. During the summers, I enjoy hiking and biking in the mountains. I do a lot of traveling as part of my work and enjoy visiting new museums and hiking new trails in foreign climes.

- -Elizabeth Simmons, Assistant Professor of Physics, Boston University

 

Make sure you "like" the field. The most important thing is that you enjoy doing what you do. Given that, get a good solid background -- take as many courses as you can; be adventurous; take the hard courses even if it means not getting straight A's. Get to know faculty members and try to work in their research groups (even if research isn't your long term goal). Take courses outside your field too. In computer science, it's important to remember that most of the world uses computers as tools -- their goal is to get something done. Spend time learning about the different things people want to do with computers. Finally, have fun. If you're not enjoying what you're doing, find something else!

- - Margo Seltzer, Prof. of Computer Science, Harvard University

Take as much math and science as you can in high school choose your field based on what you enjoy doing and be open to changes and opportunities. Don't be intimidated by others who have more experience as kids - you'll catch up sooner or later.

-- Mari Ostendorf, Associate Professor
BU College of Engineering

Follow your interests, for there you will succeed. Get advice along the way. Consider working or co-oping while in college or immediately after to help you better understand your interests, then get an advanced degree, at least a Masters degree. Get your "engineer-in-training" certificate and your professional engineer's license. Be active in professional societies. Aside from your technical skills, practice and work on improving your writing and people skills. As a technical person, you're expected to solve technical problems; if you can solve other types of problems (like people problems, for example), then you'll go farther. Maintain a positive attitude. And try to give back to your field, help others. Good luck.

-- Rita Fordiani, PE, Environmental Engineer, CH2M HILL (consulting)

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